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Daily Points on Anglin Bay Site Traffic and Parking, #3
A Discussion of the Two Adjacent Parking Lots

Beginning May 19th, 2005, Bruce Todd, who is supposed to be retired from a 40+ year career in traffic engineering, but nonetheless branded an "instant expert" by several pro-LVEC luminaries, none loftier than William Leggett, ex-principal of Queen's University, is briefing everyone about the field, pointing out "features" of the full Phase I Traffic and Parking Study prepared by CastleGlenn Consultants , who were hand-picked by Don Gedge for their "keen understanding of the Wellington Street Corridor" (pages 13 and 16 therein). 

Articles in the Daily Points on LVEC Traffic and Parking series

#1 - Concerns About the Content of Phase I (May 19)
#2 - No  Pedestrian Counts in Intersection Analysis (May 20)
#3 - A Discussion of the Two Adjacent Parking Lots (May 21)
#4 - Drop Off and Pick Up Mode of Access (May 22)
#5 - Display Maps (May 23)
#6 - The Anglin Parking Lot (May 24)
#7 - Reporting of Available On-Street Parking (May 25)
#8 - Determination of Mode of Travel (May 26)
#9 - Infrastructure and Management Requirements (May 27)
#10- Study Area and Study Data (May 28)
#11- Traffic Counts (May 29)
#12- Acceptable Walking Distance (May 30)
#13- Parking Availability and Key Factors (May 31)
#14- Clearance Time After an Event (June 1)
From: Bruce Todd
To: "Gedge, Don" <dgedge@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor S Garrison <sgarrison@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor R Downes <rdownes@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor L Foster <lfoster@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor G Stoparczyk <gstoparczyk@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor B Pater <bpater@cityofkingston.ca>, Mayor H Rosen <hrosen@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor G Beavis <gbeavis@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor K George <kgeorge@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor G Sutherland <gsutherland@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor F Patterson <fpatterson@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor E Smith <esmith@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor S Meers <smeers@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor B George <bgeorge@cityofkingston.ca>
CC: "Hickey, Sheila" <SHickey@cityofkingston.ca>, "Baldwin, Derek" <dbaldwin@thewhig.com>, gwallace@cityofkingston.ca

Date: May 21, 2005, 11:07:29 AM
Subject: [KCAL] LVEC Traffic & Parking - Item #3     

A Discussion of the Two Adjacent Parking Lots

The following may not be entirely the handiwork of CastleGlenn, but the determination of parking stall requirements, lane requirements, transit storage, turning radii, etc., should have been done in conjunction with the advice and guidance of Mr Arthur Gordon.

This project started out in the Task Force Report (TFR) by identifying the need for a minimum of 300 parking stalls on site - see page 17 of the TFR.

Then the concept site plan came out, showing 182 parking spaces in the Anglin Lot and 98 parking spaces just north of the proposed LVEC, for a total of 280 parking spaces.

The latest plan (see http://flickr.com/photos/kcal/14648434/) has dumped the 182 parking spaces in the Anglin Lot and put them into the general parking supply. See my upcoming article on what a mess this is.

Further, the latest plan has reduced the number of parking stalls to the north of the proposed LVEC (referred to hereafter as the north lot) from 98 spaces to 58 spaces, 12 for buses, 12 for handicap parking, 7 for media parking, and 29 others. The information in the CastleGlenn Traffic and Parking Report Phase I (TPRPI) on the lower half of page 18 is now out of date with the latest parking lot drawings.

On Page 17 of the TPRP1, there will be 7 transit buses, 5 inter-city buses, and 10 shuttle buses. On page 18 of the TPRP1, we learn that all buses except the 7 transit buses will park in the north parking lot. So that means there are 12 bus stalls and 15 buses. Back to the drawing board.

But of particular note on page 18 of the TPRP1 is that the transit buses will pick up and drop off at Rideau and North Street, 180 metres away as the crow flies. All 362 people will have to climb that steep rampway up to North Street, or walk over to Bay Street and up the steep hill to Rideau and North Street (554 metres), and hope that, with no shelter, the buses are waiting for them (good luck after an overtime hockey game). Let's hope it never snows or there's no freezing rain in this area of the city during an event at the LVEC.

And there is a further major concern. The rule of thumb is to provide one disabled parking space for every 40 parking stalls required. Given that an event of 5000 people requires approximately 2,000 parking stalls, then 50, not 12, parking spaces should be provided for the handicapped. THIS IS A MAJOR FLAW IN THE PRESENT PLANS, AND THE PLANNING COMMITTEE SHOULD ENSURE THAT THIS SITUATION BE RECTIFIED. A sold out event of 6800 people requires 70 handicap stalls. Does anyone have a shoehorn?

PLEASE NOTE: The alerts I put forth in capital letters are in no way intended to insult the intelligence of anyone. They are simply my way of finding key points later.

There could well be a problem of unauthorized vehicles entering or using the north parking lot. The critical time period would be probably from 6:00 p.m. on, on an event night. How will this be handled. Another expense to consider if the north parking lot is to be manned for ID'ing drivers.

There appears to be NO MENTION of how taxis will be handled. Their presence and availability after an event should be addressed in Phase I of the report.

Bruce.

Detail of the North parking lot.

Articles in the Daily Points on LVEC Traffic and Parking series

#1 - Concerns About the Content of Phase I (May 19)
#2 - No  Pedestrian Counts in Intersection Analysis (May 20)
#3 - A Discussion of the Two Adjacent Parking Lots (May 21)
#4 - Drop Off and Pick Up Mode of Access (May 22)
#5 - Display Maps (May 23)
#6 - The Anglin Parking Lot (May 24)
#7 - Reporting of Available On-Street Parking (May 25)
#8 - Determination of Mode of Travel (May 26)
#9 - Infrastructure and Management Requirements (May 27)
#10- Study Area and Study Data (May 28)
#11- Traffic Counts (May 29)
#12- Acceptable Walking Distance (May 30)
#13- Parking Availability and Key Factors (May 31)
#14- Clearance Time After an Event (June 1)