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Daily Points on Anglin Bay Site Traffic and Parking, #14
Clearance Time After an Event

Beginning May 19th, 2005, Bruce Todd, who is supposed to be retired from a 40+ year career in traffic engineering, but nonetheless branded an "instant expert" by several pro-LVEC luminaries, none loftier than William Leggett, ex-principal of Queen's University, is briefing everyone about the field, pointing out "features" of the full Phase I Traffic and Parking Study prepared by CastleGlenn Consultants , who were hand-picked by Don Gedge for their "keen understanding of the Wellington Street Corridor" (pages 13 and 16 therein). 

Articles in the Daily Points on LVEC Traffic and Parking series

#1 - Concerns About the Content of Phase I (May 19)
#2 - No  Pedestrian Counts in Intersection Analysis (May 20)
#3 - A Discussion of the Two Adjacent Parking Lots (May 21)
#4 - Drop Off and Pick Up Mode of Access (May 22)
#5 - Display Maps (May 23)
#6 - The Anglin Parking Lot (May 24)
#7 - Reporting of Available On-Street Parking (May 25)
#8 - Determination of Mode of Travel (May 26)
#9 - Infrastructure and Management Requirements (May 27)
#10- Study Area and Study Data (May 28)
#11- Traffic Counts (May 29)
#12- Acceptable Walking Distance (May 30)
#13- Parking Availability and Key Factors (May 31)
#14- Clearance Time After an Event (June 1)
From: Bruce Todd
To: "Gedge, Don" <dgedge@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor S Garrison <sgarrison@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor R Downes <rdownes@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor L Foster <lfoster@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor G Stoparczyk <gstoparczyk@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor B Pater <bpater@cityofkingston.ca>, Mayor H Rosen <hrosen@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor G Beavis <gbeavis@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor K George <kgeorge@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor G Sutherland <gsutherland@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor F Patterson <fpatterson@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor E Smith <esmith@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor S Meers <smeers@cityofkingston.ca>, Councillor B George <bgeorge@cityofkingston.ca>
CC: "Hickey, Sheila" <SHickey@cityofkingston.ca>, "Baldwin, Derek" <dbaldwin@thewhig.com>, gwallace@cityofkingston.ca

Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 07:26:39
Subject: [KCAL] LVEC Traffic & Parking - Item #14

Clearance Time After an Event

This will be the last item. I must turn to other reports and prepare for the next public meeting.

Remember back in Item #6 I told you how long it will take to get on the road after an event if you are parked in the Anglin Lot - an average of 25.8 minutes. That means you could be up to 51.6 minutes getting out of the lot if you are the last car. That means if you live in Greenwood Park and you fight your way through the only road out of town in this area, the Causeway, you might make it home about an hour and a half after the close of an event.

But what if you used the Chown Garage or the Hansen Garage? Will there be shuttle buses to these garages? How long would it take you to get home? The report didn't tell you.

And what if you used shuttle buses to outer parking lots such as at Richardson Stadium? How long would it take you to get on the road and get home? The report didn't tell you.

Let's look at a couple of scenarios that the Traffic & Parking Report Phase I (TPRPI) didn't tell you about.

What if you park at the Chown Garage? First you have to exit the LVEC. Then you have to walk to the garage 950 metres away and partly uphill. The garage holds 448 cars. It has two elevators that can hold 12 people each, and that take three minutes to make a return trip if everyone moves quickly on and off. Or you can climb several flights of stairs, or walk uphill through the garage and the cars. Picture yourself on the tenth level with 350 cars in front of you. Cars exiting the garage have to yield to pedestrians and vehicles using Brock Street. You can calculate your time, but here is my estimate -

Exit LVEC = 8 minutes
Walk to garage = 15 minutes
Elevator = 3 minutes (assuming no crowd)
Exit garage = (350 x 10 seconds per vehicle) = 59 minutes

Total = 85 minutes or about an hour and a half, and you are now out on the street and heading home.

What if you had taken a shuttle from Richardson stadium? Well, the last shuttle has to wait for all the people to exit the LVEC. At the other end, you have 278 cars in a parking lot that have to get out onto the ring road and then out onto the street. My calculations -

Last shuttle full = 20 minutes
Travel to Richardson = 10 minutes
Exit bus and walk to car = 5 minutes
Exit parking lot to ring road = 5 minutes
Enter street = 10 minutes

Total = 50 minutes and you are now on the street and heading home.

We won't mention it was windy, minus 20 Celsius and you had to clean your car off.

But transit will solve everything. Well consider this - there are seven buses parked up on Rideau Street. None of them can leave until the LVEC has completely cleared and people have had time to walk up the new walkway from Wellington Street to Rideau and North Streets. Then your ride stops about 35 times, and you hope you aren't the last one off. Time? -

Clear the LVEC = 20 minutes
Walk up to Rideau Street = 5 minutes, if you're spry
Get to the end of your route in Collins Bay = 40 minutes
Walk to your house = 5 minutes

Total time = 70 minutes, or about an hour and 10 minutes.

Note that the report tells you that 7 transit buses will be used. But there are 15 routes. What does that mean? Either the buses will take twice as long to get you home as I showed above because they have to travel two routes each, or there will be no service for half of us, or many of us will have to walk very long distances after getting off the bus.

Thanks for listening.

Bruce.

P.S. Feedback notes (excluding congrats) to date - from local citizens = 23 ; from city hall, council, or other = 1

Articles in the Daily Points on LVEC Traffic and Parking series

#1 - Concerns About the Content of Phase I (May 19)
#2 - No  Pedestrian Counts in Intersection Analysis (May 20)
#3 - A Discussion of the Two Adjacent Parking Lots (May 21)
#4 - Drop Off and Pick Up Mode of Access (May 22)
#5 - Display Maps (May 23)
#6 - The Anglin Parking Lot (May 24)
#7 - Reporting of Available On-Street Parking (May 25)
#8 - Determination of Mode of Travel (May 26)
#9 - Infrastructure and Management Requirements (May 27)
#10- Study Area and Study Data (May 28)
#11- Traffic Counts (May 29)
#12- Acceptable Walking Distance (May 30)
#13- Parking Availability and Key Factors (May 31)
#14- Clearance Time After an Event (June 1)